not once. His power level is equal to both of there power levels combined. Or are we assuming King Vegeta somehow survived and went back in time like Bardock? that was a dub line and they dont count. Power Level. As the son of King Vegeta, Vegeta was one of Universe 7's strongest Saiyans even in his youth's early days. Even before Cabba knew how to transform into a Super Saiyan, he was already leagues above Bardock. So if Bardock and King Vegeta fought under normal circumstance I would say that King Vegeta would win. Whoever keeps making my forum worse than it is now stop it or I will tell my parents. Power Levels: no it wasnt. As a child, Broly was born with such a high power level that his mere existence served as a threat to King Vegeta's rule. Bardock's Final Spirit Cannon just doesn't come close to that. until you accept that toei and akira toriyama are the only legit creators of dragon ball, get out of this fanbase. but hes the king for a reason. --DARK 16:12, June 30, 2011 (UTC), King Vegeta is stronger, but if Bardock wouldn't have been stubborn and he healed again Bardock would be stronger. Bardocks was 10,000. king vegeta and prince vegeta were special saiyans with alot of raw potential. Even as a young boy, he was leagues above Bardock. In Dragon Ball games like Super Dragon Ball Heroes and Xenoverse 2, he managed to excel all the way to Super Saiyan 3. Bardock. Bardock would win becuase he was the only one who stood up the Freiza. [[Category:{{{1}}}|Bardock vs King Vegeta - who is stronger?]]. King Vegeta was an unusually intelligent Saiyan unlike the rest of his primitive race. and if you dont care about the japanese version then get out of this fanbase. King Vegeta couldn't detect his power level on the scouter, and assumed he had been killed. Super Saiyan Gotek June 30. This is a list of known and official Power Levels (戦闘力, Sentōryoku, lit.Combat Power) in the Dragon Ball universe.All of the levels on this list are taken from the manga, anime, movies, movie pamphlets, Daizenshuu guides, video games and stated mathematical calculations. If she and Bardock ever sparred, her unpredictable, reckless style of fighting would overwhelm him, and he'd be left with no choice but to bust out his Final Spirit Cannon. 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Due to this, Bardock was able to defeat Dodoria's elite soldiers and despite being heavily wounded, also defeated hundreds of Frieza's own troops as well. King Vegeta looks very much like Vegeta himself, only with a beard and brown hair (unlike all other saiyans) and is much taller. He seemed proud to know this his eldest son had been chosen to go on a mission alongside Vegeta, who definitely didn't have Saiyan riffraff hanging around him. Howev… Initially, Goku struggled to defeat normal Earthlings like Yamcha, Master Roshi, and Tien, all characters that Bardock would defeat without even trying. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! After his people were annexed byFrieza'sFrieza Force, he had no choice but to pledge allegiance, but still kept power over his people. King Vegeta is the king of the Saiyan race and the head of the royal family. While fans will always celebrate Saiyans like Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku for their contributions in defending Earth, several other Saiyans have played an important role in Dragon Ball's story as well. RELATED: Dragon Ball: Every Non-Canon Android In The Franchise. Thats why they killed Raditz you cant have strategy and think you can win when someone is stronger unless one of your techniques or skills surpasses them. Lssj4 16:01, June 21, 2011 (UTC), When Bardock was in the tank, the doctors said his power level was getting close to Vegeta's when they said, "...he might even surpass King Vegeta!" Goten and Trunks are rarely seen tackling an enemy independently, choosing to fuse into Gotenks whenever they're presented with a challenge. In the span of a few minutes, she progressed from Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan 2, showing great potential to adapt to situations on the fly quickly. When he isn't writing for CBR, Lavell is usually playing videogames, catching up on interesting anime, or writing novels. If we take that, which is offiial information, into account, then there's no discussion at all. But dont try to make your opinion as fact. Bardock wouldve been killed in one punch to. I ciould say,what King Vegeta WAS stronger than Bardock,but then he wanted to stop Freeza from destroyng the Vegeta planet,he was stronger than him.I mean serously,Freeza's solders had 1.500-3.000 power levels,and Bardock just beaten all his troops(something like 1.000-2.000 Freeza's troops).Could what do King vegeta?I do not think so.And bardocks last attack might have 20.000-30.000 power level... Vegeta killed the majority of Frieza's elite guards. Have you guys never watched the new Bardock special? Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Of course King Vegeta is stronger than Bardock! However, with strategy and Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, they were able to win. Frieza wasn't impressed by Bardock and his team. it proves nothing. Lssj4 16:13, June 21, 2011 (UTC). --DARK 17:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC). Unfortunately, in Bardock - The Father of Goku, both Saiyans went down easily when they were up against Frieza's First Form, which speaks more to how superior he was to the Saiyans rather than their own strength relative to one another. no it wasnt. When the Saiyans emigrated to Planet Plant and came to coexist with the native Tuffles, a race of dwarfish people with superior technology, Vegeta saw a chance to gain power. I don't recall King Vegeta's power level to be explicitly stated, but I would assume stronger than Bardock because he's King. In the saiyan saga Vegeta was like 18,000. It shows the he was the actual first Super Saiyan, the beginning of the legend! 2. 1. When he and Vegeta first fought in the Tournament of Destroyers, Vegeta remarked that he and Cabba were evenly matched in their base forms. You go by the jap I go by the english so we dont agree with each other is fine. the english dub is completely bastardised and wrong. In Age 737, shortly before attempting to openly rebel against Frieza, King Vegeta orders newborn Broly to be executed due to his extremely high power level of 10,000, as this amount of power was seen as a possible threat to the royal Saiyan family. Until you provide a TRUE SOURCE of Akira Toriyama or Toei Animation stating that or FUNimation admitting that their dub is inaccurate and wrong. He tried to warned everyone but they wouldn't Belize him. While their Super Saiyan transformations wouldn't hold a candle to Goku's, Vegeta's, or even Cabba's, they'd be more than a match for a low-class Saiyan warrior who couldn't even defeat Frieza at his weakest. His power level is stated to be around 10,000. they dont care about some random foreign dub. King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). no he first asked everyone else to help him. I think in the sub all they said was Bardock's power level was closing in on 10k. Since he was a child when he went past his father I would say that King Vegeta’s power level was around the late 12,000/13,000-to possibly 14,000. Vegeta and his elite all fought Frieza. After Planet Vegeta's destruction, Raditz only got stronger. Raditz: 490. how crappy is that? theres no doubt bardock could not face up to frieza. Dragon Ball: 10 Saiyans Stronger Than Bardock, Dragon Ball: 10 Best Filler Episodes (That Should Be Canon). This not only shed some more light on the higher potential present in the Saiyans of Universe 6, but it also explained why it was so easy for Cabba to transform into a Super Saiyan when someone like Bardock was unable to draw on this power at the moment he needed it most. all the scientists say in the japanese version is that bardock is "near 10 000" meaning he never surpassed 10 000. Lssj4 16:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Krillin uses strategy to win most of his battles! That's a pretty big gap, I know lol. Just some random fan who does'nt like the english dub so they call it fake. Bargeta is the fusion of King Vegeta and Bardock. As the ruler of the Saiyans, there's no question that King Vegeta would wipe the floor with Bardock at the time of his death. After achie… Exactly no one. Though considered as low-class, Bardock is said to have to power level of 10,000 and was close to surpassing the power of King Vegeta himself. I place more merit on Bardock, though, because he has more battle experience of late, whereas King Vegeta sat on his butt the last few years of his life after winning the War vs the Tuffles. Because he's appeared in so much non-canon material outside of the main series, it can be not easy to get a solid grasp of his actual powerーhowever. If Bardock were threatening to surpass him, King Vegeta probably would have done away with him like he did Broly. Sounds right. And He's A KING and he suppose to be a strong warrior but he was killed by 1 single punch. King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). lol. He was also the commanding hero of theSaiyan Army, and led his people to victory in theSaiyan-Tuffle war, in which the planet was renamed in his honor. you act like bardock planned all along to go alone. the english translators didnt get one single line right or translated even close to the original source material. Once they'd get close to the Ginyu force's level of power he could start considering disposing of them. Bardock might have been strong enough to lead his own fighting force, but apparently, he wasn't strong enough to accompany Vegeta and Nappa on missions. the scientists said he was almost 10 000. After he demonstrated his instinctive capability for battle and ever-increasing power that enabled him to keep up with god-level warriors, there's no question that he's a lot stronger than Bardock, and probably was for most of his life. funimation did not translate anyting. King Vegeta was even stated to be stronger... Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Bardock's gone on to become one of the most popular Saiyan warriors in the series, not only appearing in countless videogames but also going on to have two specials detailing his exploits before and after Planet Vegeta's destruction. Making him stronger discussion closed.Lssj4 12:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I disagree. really? In Bardock, The Father of Goku, near the time of his fateful battle with Frieza, Bardock had a power level of 10,000, which is said to rival that of King Vegeta. After struggling to defeat Raditz before that, he later gained enough power to hold his own against Vegeta and handle powerful techniques like the Spirit Bomb and Kaio-ken, the latter crippling a Saiyan elite like Nappa. lol they dont need to state it. do not use the english dub as evidence. But if the question is who were stronger before Planet Vegeta was destroyed, the obvious answer is King Vegeta. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Frieza:520.000(I am certain this was stated in the Manga and Daiz or something close to this) so there you have it. Lets all remember that this is just speculation after all. or a bullshit innacurate dub line designed to confuse people. bardock has never been compared to king vegeta, only that bardock is "almost 10 000". RELATED: How The Dragon Ball Z Movies Could Have Been Canon (Or Alternate Timelines). What I mean by normal circumstance is whether or not Bardock got furious. Paragus would probably be the first to go since Bardock and King Vegeta's power level is near 10,000 and his is obviously lower( I know this Because King vegeta almost killed him before on Planet vegeta in the 1st Brolli movie) Will you stop harrasing everyone trying to say their wrong because they go by the english version not the stupid jap version? frieza didnt even care about his presence. I watch whatever dub or sub I want. His moves are Final Spirit Cannon: Exacution Beam Orga Revenger Full Power Energy Wave Volley Super Explosive Wave He also has the power to become Great Ape, … It was stated that Bardock was ALMOST as strong as King Vegeta not vice versa, but he wasnt not yet. So King Vegeta must be between 10,000 and 18,000. It depends. King Vegeta vs. Bardock Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Both King Vegeta and Bardock had a power level of ten thousand in their base forms, but the fusion multiplied their power to over a million, proving that if they were much stronger they could become much more powerful when fused as one. King Vegetas was stated to be above that. King Vegeta's power level is unknown, as it was never actually stated. Japanese version is the same. Howl – One of Great Ape King Vegeta's Blast 1 in Budokai Tenkaichi 3. It seems that Bardock is mostly in charge when it comes to personality, but mentally King Vegeta is in charge. Stop cursing its against the rules of the wiki. Goten and Trunks became the youngest Super Saiyans in history. Nappa: 6,500. Oh yeah, Bardock's stronger than King Vegeta. King Vegeta ('Bejīta-ō'), more specifically Vegeta III ('Bejīta Sansei'), is the king of all Saiyans and the father of Vegeta IV and Tarble. The techniques King … Bardock, the father of Goku, not only gave birth to one of the strongest Saiyan warriors that ever lived, but he also deserves all the credit for sending Goku to Earth minutes before Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta. He was also the commanding hero of theSaiyan Army, and led his people to victory in theSaiyan-Tuffle war, in which the planet was renamed in his honor. While Bardock couldn't even handle Frieza in his First Form, Gohan was not only able to pressure Frieza's Third Form as a young child but went toe-to-toe with his Final Form for a brief moment, powering up and smacking Frieza around as though he were the Super Saiyan! watch the english dub then watch japanese dub. Fans can gauge who is stronger than him by pitting him against other characters. and bardock wouldnt? A one-stop shop for all things video games. Nappa had the ability to wipe entire cities out with the flick of his wrist. Since Cabba was stronger than Bardock, there's no question that Caulifla is as well. Did you watch the jap one at all? and he did nothing but get killed by frieza. If you watched the first few episodes of DBZ then you can tell that power levels change a lot, courtesy of Raditz. Frieza's power level was 530,000, so if you compare 10,000 to that, anyone who had that power level doesn't stand a chance against Frieza's first form. NEXT: Dragon Ball Z: 10 Ways The Movies Contradict The Canon. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Bardock_vs_King_Vegeta_-_who_is_stronger%3F?oldid=1044640. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! Base Edit. Who are you to say the english dub is fake? Like any father, Bardock wanted the best for his sons. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. If he was weekly than Bardock he not to be King!All simple! --DARK 18:05, June 30, 2011 (UTC). I wont believe you. His mind started whirring with all kinds of thoughts. So Bardock's Power Level was 10,000 King Vegeta's was somewhere above 10,000 probably 15,000. Is this hypothetical situation before Bardock went back in time? For what it's worth, Nappa was also a noble and he wasn't above 4000! And he did die in a single punch, sort of like how Bardock was completely dissentigrated by the Supernova. Either way, here are plausible answers. Bardock has a pretty good chance of beating Vegeta by skill, since Bardock is really strategic when it comes to fighting (read that somewhere... don't remember where...) ~Son Goshen~, No there not. 2,822,147,055 282,214.7055x Base,According To Beat's scans on him in a Special God Mission Trailer for Dragon Ball Heroes. Strategy wont matter if you have a higher power level. How much stronger? King Vegeta:15.000(Said to be stronger then Bardock so a guess). King Vegeta, Bardock and a group of Saiyans were in front of Frieza's spaceship fighting off boards of Frieza's foot soldiers before Bardock broke free and shouted ... Now for power levels! Who knows for sure.... pretty sure he was weaker than Vegeta. It is likely that Bardock was the most powerful lower-class Saiyan soldier of his time. Lssj4 16:11, June 21, 2011 (UTC), Oh not to mention sign your post. ~Son Goshen~, 1. So we technically don't know what King Vegeta's PL was. i KNOW. King Vegeta: 11,000. 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